This is Jocko podcast number 532.

And I talk often about, obviously, about the military and what the military does and the strength of the military.

But there is another strength and another force in the world that is equally, if not, even more important and stronger.

And that is economic force.

And one of the most important type of economic force

in the world is Americans.

And one of the most important economic forces in America

is small businesses.

Small businesses are hugely impactful to the economy in America.

They're what drive the economy in America,

which brings us to our guests for today,

three gentlemen from vastly different backgrounds who have built and are continuing to grow an

American company.

And this company is called Symmetry Sona.

And I met these guys as we were building out the new gym here at victory

MMA which is where we're sitting right now the new gym at Victory MMA we had a fire

which incidentally was caused by our old sauna so we didn't want to get that old sauna we

wanted a brand new sauna and we searched around to find

who was making the best saunas in the country and really in my opinion the best sonnas in the world

and we ended up with symmetry sauna. And so once we brought them in and I saw what they were doing,

building business, creating jobs, and basically getting after

it, which is a huge part of what I like.

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