Hey everyone, Vancouver Radio.

Am I excited for today because, well, let's ignore the pandemic thing because I want everything content wise to always be absolutely timeless but loads of people

are online at the moment and I don't think that's going to change because I think now we've almost

integrated ourselves more into sort of

of social media Facebook uses use up something like 50 percent like the statistics are

mad we're we're talking with friends and family around Zoom. So today's conversation feels like almost even more prevalent,

our relationship with technology, our relationship with social media,

how it plays a role in our lives.

This individual has written a book on it.

He's done TEDx talks, like, he's just a man for the job.

And when we spoke before this show went up he went all my

mission is is to help people become not distracted by social media to be able to

control it to be able to manage it for it to be a healthy part of their life.

So let's get into the show. Welcome, Near E.L.

Thank you. Great to be here.

From Singapore. You ran away from America, New York, to Singapore to evade Corona.

Well yeah we're writing it out here. We live in Midtown Manhattan which is not the best place to be as we speak. So we

decided to hang out in Singapore for a little while.

I've been, it's a beautiful place. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea it's a very

you know urban sophisticated place but um...

i loved it but it's probably because i love

go into countries that are just very different to my own? Mm.

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