Hey guys it's Rachel and welcome to another episode of the podcast. I'm pretty

excited to bring you the conversation that I am sharing today, the one with singer, songwriter, performer, Andy Grammer.

I am super lucky in that I get to interview and meet people who do really cool stuff.

I get to talk to artists, I get to talk to writers and actors and politicians.

It's like the coolest part of my job.

But my absolute favorite is when I get to talk to someone

who just wants to have a conversation.

They're not trying to promote anything

or they don't have a specific agenda, they're just present and with it and

ready to be real. And that was my conversation with Andy.

We talked about everything from parenting

to the creative process, what it feels like to be on tour

again, how COVID affected us both, and really took a toll on emotional well-being like so many

other people all around the world.

I liked Andy Grammar's music before this. But halfway through the conversation, it

wasn't just about my love of the music anymore. It was about my love of this

human being. I met a forever friend when I got to sit down with him this day and I think you're going to leave this conversation feeling the same way.

Listen in, I hope you enjoy our chat, be sure and post something about it. If you it tag me tag Andy let us know what

you thought but this is my chat with my new BFF and do grammar.

Hi I'm Rachel Hollis and this is my podcast.

I spend so many hours of every single week reading and listening to podcast and watching YouTube videos and trying to find out as much as I can about the world around me

and that's what we do on this show. We talk about everything, life and how to be an entrepreneur. What happened to

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