Hi everyone and welcome to this week's Squiggly Career Podcast. My name is Helen Tupper. I'm one of the co-founders of Amazing If and I'm here with the other co-founder of Amazing If.

Hi everybody. That's Sarah, by the way, in case you don't listen to us every, every week. And this podcast is our way that we try and help you each and every week to take a little bit more control of your squiggly career.

And a squiggly career is one that a lot of people are finding themselves in now. It's one where there's lots more change, either because maybe you're changing your job a little bit more,

or actually maybe things are changing around you at work. And what we have learned through all

the things that we've done and lots of coaching that we've done with Amazing If is actually there's a set of skills and there's some kind of tips and tools and

things that make that squiggle quite a good opportunity that you can learn and develop in,

but it can also sometimes feel a bit scary. So we just want to share with you lots of different ways

in which we think we can help you to take control of that squiggly career and develop some of the skills to help you be successful in it.

And this week, one of those skills that we think is particularly useful is the skill of bravery.

And it's something that Sarah and I, we kind of talked about,

oh, should we do one on bravery?

Because we did a podcast a while back on grit,

which feels like kind of the determination to kind of get through things,

and that was inspired by some work that Angela Duckworth has done on the subject. But bravery,

I think, feels a bit broader, and it feels more like courage, and I think grit is part of that,

but bravery it works a bit bigger. Sarah, what's your context on what you think bravery is and why

it's important? I was thinking about this. We've talked before about, I think you operate sort of day in, day out,

across three different sort of zones. You're either in your comfort zone, your stretch zone,

or your scary zone. And when I was thinking about the context of what bravery means to me,

I think it's those moments when you're in your scary zone. What's in your scary zone, I guess, is very personal to you. So what's in my scary zone

might be actually in somebody else's comfort zone. And I think we kind of go in and out of these things all

the time. But it's being brave enough, I guess, to kind of embrace that scary zone and to kind of

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