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519: Expressive Arts Therapy + Trauma | Dr. Cathy Malchiodi

Therapy Chat

Laura Reagan, LCSW-C

Social Sciences, Health & Fitness, Science, Mental Health

4.4762 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week I'm sharing my recent interview with Dr. Cathy Malchiodi, a leader in the trauma, expressive arts and art therapy fields. In our conversation Cathy explores the transformative power of expressive arts therapy in healing from traumatic experiences.She discusses the evolution of arts-based approaches, the importance of movement and sensory processing, and the distinctions between art therapy and expressive arts therapy. Cathy Malchiodi emphasizes the need for therapists to create safe environments and engage in expressive practices themselves. She discusses the Circle of Capacity, a concept she created in response to the Window of Tolerance concept from Dr. Daniel Siegel's work. The discussion also touches on the role of mindfulness and the significance of small moments of safety in therapeutic settings.


An internationally known psychotherapist and expressive arts therapist, Dr. Cathy Malchiodi has helped shape the field of traumatic stress through her decades of work with children, adults, families, and communities. Cathy is the author of numerous publications including several bestselling books that have become standards in the fields of expressive arts therapy, art therapy, trauma recovery, and creative approaches to clinical practice. She is the founder and executive director of the Trauma-Informed Practices and Expressive Arts Therapy Institute, a source of education and professional development for over 30,000 psychotherapists, counselors, creative arts therapists, somatic educators, and coaches. Cathy has held seven academic appointments and is the recipient of many awards including Kennedy Center Honors, research grants, and several university fellowships. Dr. Malchiodi promotes a capacity-focused, neurodiversity-affirming approach to traumatic stress grounded in evidence-informed expressive arts therapy and sensory integration. Drawing on principles of EMDR, somatic therapy, arts therapies, and sensory processing, she developed Bilateral Movement Desensitization and Resensitization, an innovative model to facilitate trauma recovery and restore health and well-being.


Resources from this episode:


Learn about Trauma-informed Expressive Arts Therapy here

Dr. Cathy Malchiodi writes on Substack - read it here

Dr. Cathy Malchiodi's website is found here

Find Trauma and Expressive Arts Therapy: Brain, Body and Imagination in the Healing Process on the publisher's website here.


More Resources:


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Also, new members are being accepted in the Trauma Therapist Network membership community. Learn more here.


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Therapists, visit the new For Therapists page on the Trauma Therapist Network website for discounts on CE trainings, recommended resources and more. 


Find a trauma therapist near you via findtraumatherapy.com! We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available at Trauma Therapist Network. 


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Therapy Notes is the highest rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health

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professionals. It's all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice,

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from connecting with clients via secure messages to scheduling, notes, billing, and more.

0:15.0

You can trust Therapy Notes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service

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with a live person. It's beyond easy to get help

0:23.1

over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives.

0:27.9

The best time to give Therapy Notes a try is now. Sign up for your free trial by going to

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TherapyNotes.com, clicking Start My Free Trial, and accessing your first two months free with the promo code chat.

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CY Therapy Notes is the most trusted EHR for behavioral health professionals today.

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Therapists, ready to stop just listening and start doing?

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I offer several ways to work with me and accelerate your trauma expertise.

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You can join my Trauma Therapist Network membership community for ongoing support, book a one-on-one

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clinical consultation with me for personalized guidance, or buy my course for clinicians on supporting

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survivors of sexual trauma, and check out the retreats coming up in 2026. All that info and more is on

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the four therapists page of Trauma Therapist Network, and you can find a link in the show notes.

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Therapy Chat Podcast, Episode 519.

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This is the Therapy Chat Podcast with Laura Reagan, LCSWC.

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The information shared in this podcast is not a substitute for seeking help from a licensed mental health professional.

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And now, here's your host, Laura Reagan, LCSWC. Hi, welcome back to therapy chat.

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I'm your host, Laura Reagan.

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And today, bringing you another fascinating conversation with Dr. Kathy Malkyote. Dr. Kathy Malkyote is an internationally

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known psychotherapist and expressive arts therapist who has helped shape the field of traumatic

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