It's time for episode 511 of the Clockwise podcast from Relay FM, recorded Wednesday, July 12, 2023.

Clockwise, four people, four tech topics, 30 minutes.

Well, Welcome back to Clockwise, the tech podcast where we always go four for four.

My name is Dan Morn, and I'm joined across the internet by my good friend, my pal, my dungeon buddy, because we play Dungeon Dragons on the internet together.

It is the one and only, Micah. Sgt. How are you doing today, Micah? I'm doing well, although I'm realizing

511 is not an easy number to say. 511. Yeah, it does require a lot of careful pronunciation,

but that's what we do here on Clogwise. Careful pronunciation. The other thing we do is invite on two fantastic

guests to talk about four tech topics. And to my left this week, it is the editor-in-chief of No Jitter

and the program co-chair of Enterprise Connect. It is the fabulous Lisa Schmeiser. Welcome back, Lisa.

Thank you. This is my favorite 30-minute podcast. And I'm so glad to be back on it.

Excellent. I'm serious. I love it.

Oh, glad to have you here. I'm also glad to be joined to my left by the deputy editor at the

verge. It's Dan Seaford. Hello, Dan. Hello. Thanks for having me. Glad to have you.

All right. Let me kick things off this week. The App Store turned 15 this week. So it is

nostalgia time, of course. I want to know if there's any apps from that initial run or the very

early days of the App Store that you still think of fondly or maybe what some of your first

apps were. Lisa, let's start with you. You know, this is a great question mostly because

15 years feels like a lifetime ago in many,

many respects. The first app I can actually remember being one where it was really woven into

my daily habits. And one that I would have freaked out if it had gone away was actually an app

that I was forced to start using when I had a newborn

called Total Baby,

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