It's time for episode 510 of the Clockwise Podcasts from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, July 5th, 2023.

Clockwise, four people, that always has two hosts, but not necessarily the ones you expect.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across the internet by my good pal,

and yes, also my dungeon buddy, because yes, we also play Dungeons and Dragons online together.

It's James Thompson.

Hi, James.

Thanks, Micah, my on-again, off-again dungeon buddy.

I'm doing well now that I've graduated from clockwise college to this

esteemed and hopefully tenured position. I haven't noticed before just how luxurious these

host seats are. Oh, shh. We don't mention that part. We've got them in folding chairs out there.

We got to keep our velvety beautiful chairs secret.

But yeah, let's have everybody distracted by pomp and circumstance playing in the background while I introduce our first guest to my left.

It's the president and principal analyst at Creative Strategies and the founder of the Heart of Tech. It's

Carolina Milanezzi. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me and hopefully the gods

of internet and thunder are with me because there's a big thunder weather in Atlanta at the moment.

And to my left is noted VFX artist Joe Rosenstiel.

Hi, Joe.

Hi.

We have spared ourselves the Thunder and Lightning Storm budget for them VFX,

and we just have sunshine today here in Southern California.

And I'm going to kick things off.

We've got four topics, just 30 minutes, and here is mine for all of you.

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