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The Rest Is Politics

509. Labour's Polanski Problem and the Student Loans Scandal (Question Time)

The Rest Is Politics

Goalhanger

News, Politics, Government

4.511.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 March 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Does the Gorton and Denton by-election result suggest Labour has been underestimating the threat of the Green Party? Is the UK's tuition fee system less like a loan and more like a punishing graduate tax? As America retreats from the world stage under Trump, could the UK seize the moment to reassert itself as a cultural superpower? Join Alastair and Rory as they answer all these questions and more. __________ Sign up ⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠ to the free TRIP newsletter. Join The Rest Is Politics Plus: Start your free trial at therestispolitics.com to unlock exclusive bonus content – including Rory and Alastair’s miniseries – plus ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, exclusive newsletters, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. The Rest Is Politics is powered by Fuse Energy. To sign up and for terms and conditions, visit fuseenergy.com/politics. Get our exclusive NordVPN deal here ➼ nordvpn.com/restispolitics It's risk-free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee ✅ __________ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@restispolitics⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@restispolitics⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠therestispolitics@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ __________ Social Producer: Emma Jackson Video Editor: James Clayden Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Producer: Evan Green Senior Producer: Callum Hill General Manager: Tom Whiter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Thanks for listening to The Restis Politics. To support the podcast, listen without the adverts and get early access to episodes and live show tickets, go to therestispolitics Time with me, Rory Stewart.

0:24.5

And with me, Alastair Campbell. And, Roy, it seems a long, long, long time ago that we were

0:30.1

talking about whether we shouldn't do a special episode on the Gorton and Denton by-election.

0:34.6

Since we've done quite a lot of special episodes, none of them on the Gorton and Denton by-election. But we've done quite a lot of special episodes, none of them on the Gorton

0:38.6

and Denton by-election. But we did nonetheless get a lot of questions. Graham, Tripp Plus member from

0:43.5

Vancouver. Doesn't the Gorton and Denton results suggest that voters haven't shifted much, but the

0:49.8

parties have? In this traditional Labour seat, most voters still favour progressive policies, yet

0:56.5

Labour's move right has left space for the Greens to benefit. Meanwhile, with the Conservatives

1:01.3

diminished traditionally rightly new voters appear to have turned to reform as the party with momentum.

1:06.2

Let's just remind people what happened. So this was very, very recently, as you point out, since the last main podcast, 26th February,

1:14.8

this Labour seat where traditionally Labor had well over 50% of the vote came up.

1:19.9

This was the one that listeners will remember.

1:22.4

Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Manchester, was hoping to stand for that seat as his route back into Parliament and maybe his route to be Prime Minister, he was blocked by the Labour Party from standing,

1:32.6

and the result was that the Green Party won with 40.9% of the vote, somebody called Hannah Spencer,

1:40.3

Reform UK, Matt Goodwin, who my mother thinks is good-looking, 28.7%.

1:45.2

For God's sake, Rory.

1:48.0

Labor dropped.

1:49.2

He's hideous.

1:50.4

From having won over 50% of the vote in 2024, dropped to third place, down to 24.9% of the vote.

1:58.6

And the Tories, for only the second time since 1962, managed to lose their

2:04.7

500-pound deposit. They got so few, they didn't even clear 2% of the vote in this seat.

2:09.0

Yeah, amazing. The combined green and reform vote, I mean, if we go back in the days when,

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