4.6 • 961 Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2021
⏱️ 62 minutes
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The holiday season is often associated with big expectations and high hopes. It can be fraught for families, whether they are going through challenging times with a child’s gender identity. Sasha and Stella discuss the meaning of extended family, big celebrations, and how to keep the stakes low and reasonable during the holidays. They also discuss the holidays as a time some young people try to ‘come out,’ while others feel hesitant to reconnect with loved ones who haven’t yet seen their new ‘gender presentation.’ Sasha and Stella also provide practical strategies that families can use to recruit loving trusted adults who also have the child’s best interests in mind.
Links:
What happened in LeRoy https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/magazine/teenage-girls-twitching-le-roy.html
Stop That! It's not Tourette's but a new type of mass sociogenic illness: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34424292/
Debbie Nathan’s Lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLKAIObPWJE
Genspect’s Brief Guidance for Friends and Family: https://genspect.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Friends-and-family.pdf
Sasha’s Newsletter on Extended Family:
Whale Rider Movie:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298228/
Extended Notes:
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0:00.0 | You're listening to gender, a wider lens. |
0:04.0 | I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland. |
0:06.5 | And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States. |
0:10.6 | Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens |
0:16.1 | and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning |
0:20.7 | teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and |
0:24.2 | individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the |
0:28.1 | concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens. |
0:35.0 | Howdy, Stella. |
0:39.0 | Hello, hello, hello, how are you? |
0:42.0 | I'm doing great. We're recording at a different time than normal. It's bright and early here today and I have all the energy reserves of the day so that I feel good. How about you? |
0:51.0 | Yeah, you're always bright-eyed and but she-tailed. This episode is a special |
0:57.3 | edition really and you thought of it and it's such a good idea. I'm so glad you did think of it |
1:01.8 | because it's it's so important that we |
1:04.4 | acknowledge the challenges that all families have when there's mental health issues |
1:10.3 | in the family and there's there's you know special times coming up whether it's |
1:14.6 | Thanksgiving or Christmas and it's part of birthdays any of those special events |
1:19.1 | they are excruciatingly difficult very often for anybody with mental health issues and it has a certain flavor |
1:26.5 | I would say when it's gender issues so you thought of this idea especially for you know we put in it in especially for the right date so that to help families that are navigating this. |
1:38.0 | So I know you wrote something about this so you're very well prepared for this. |
1:44.5 | Somewhat I mean I wrote this a while ago for those of you listening I write I used to write |
1:49.8 | regularly this newsletter and it was basically the idea was you know I would be |
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