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Gender: A Wider Lens

49 - Archives of an Epidemic: A conversation w/ Benjamin Boyce

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Over the last number of years, Benjamin Boyce has become known for his prolific and powerful video content on the impact of social justice. Among his most-watched content is a huge series of conversations about sex, gender, identity, and transition. He was among the first to platform detransitioners’ stories and investigate the issue of childhood transition. In this episode, we delve deep into Benjamin’s childhood and find out why he has committed to exposing the underlying problems associated with identity politics.

Links:

Benjamin’s YouTube: 

Youtube.com/channel/UCm13xHVNFVwzHzK3QHSaZ3Q

Benjamin on Apple Podcasts:

Podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/calmversations/id1447774150

Playlist: gender, sexuality and transition

Youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRdayXEOwuMH3f0pmZqVQUU62rgJIzvt9

Evergreen playlist: 

Youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRdayXEOwuMG1jaAtJE0KbpyY_Kh-JTUl

Veera

Youtube.com/watch?v=YLkBk2bBp_c

Father and son, Ash and Raphael

Youtube.com/watch?v=FoEWbVviOpk

Extended Notes:

  • A little bit about Benjamin and why he got started in this kind of work. What was he like as a child?
  • Benjamin’s father was deeply devoted to his town’s pastor, but as time went on, this man became more and more controlling over Benjamin’s family. They accused his mother of being possessed and rearranged family structures in the community. Benjamin “inherited” two siblings.
  • After leaving that town, Benjamin’s family moved around constantly. He always felt like an outsider.
  • Benjamin, following in his dad’s dreams of wanting to be a pastor, also always wanted to be a pastor.
  • Why did Benjamin decide to start a YouTube channel?
  • Benjamin talks about his experience at Evergreen State College and why it was so chaotic.
  • In California, there were a ton of weird cults happening in the ’70s and ’80s.
  • Benjamin talks about a weird cascading effect that happened around pronouns and Jordan Peterson. It was all about the trans issue. He noticed some patterns between Evergreen and how people were addressing the trans issue.
  • If you want to get good at any craft, you have to create. You have to take action.
  • What is this trans thing all about, really? Benjamin was curious.
  • Have the activists attacked Benjamin for his opinions?
  • In the end, Benjamin just wants to have good conversations.
  • Benjamin does believe that there is an erosion of masculinity in today’s society and the way certain trends are currently going.


This podcast is partially sponsored by ReIME, Rethink Identity Medicine Ethics:

Rethinkime.org


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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to gender, a wider lens.

0:04.0

I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.

0:06.5

And I'm Sasha Ayad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.

0:10.6

Since 2016, my practice has been exclusively dedicated to gender questioning teens

0:16.1

and families impacted by gender dysphoria. I also work with gender questioning

0:20.7

teenagers and I facilitated support meetings for families and

0:24.2

individuals who have been impacted by gender issues. We're curious about the

0:28.1

concept of gender and how it's unfolding in the wider culture. Join us as we look at gender through a wider lens.

0:37.8

Benjamin Boyce has documented on his YouTube channel

0:41.0

a huge volume of extensive and robust interviews about the topics of gender identity

0:46.0

and transition.

0:47.6

Today we turn the tables and we interview Benjamin.

0:51.2

He tells us about his childhood, his family, and growing up in a very intense and cult-like

0:56.4

religious group.

0:58.0

Always searching for meaning through words and narratives, Benjamin found his life took many fascinating twists and turns and ultimately landed him at Evergreen State College.

1:07.0

He began his YouTube channel while he was documenting the chaos and disintegration at this Washington State Liberal Arts School and he found

1:15.8

his way to the topic of transgender activism.

1:19.1

Benjamin was very gracious in sharing a lot of intimate aspects of his upbringing with us and we reflect together about the current state and possible future

1:27.4

direction we might take in our understanding of male, female,

1:32.3

masculine and feminine.

1:34.0

Here's our conversation with Benjamin Boys.

1:37.0

Hi, Sasha.

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