4.8 • 812 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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In this powerful interview, Cody McBroom sits down with Tara Vander Dussen and Natalie Kovarik—two outspoken voices in modern agriculture—to uncover the raw truth about farming, food production, and the misconceptions keeping people sick, confused, and disconnected from their food.
Tara and Natalie break down everything from the reality of dairy and beef farming, to the difference between organic, conventional, and regenerative agriculture, to the massive gap in education that's misleading consumers across the globe. They challenge the anti-animal-agriculture narrative, explain the environmental role of grazing cattle, and reveal why soil health and transparency are the foundation of a sustainable food system.
If you're serious about your health, nutrition, or just want to better understand where your food comes from—this is a must-listen.
🔥 Topics Covered:
Regenerative farming vs. conventional practices
Vegan myths and animal agriculture facts
The business and reality of running a farm today
How to source better food and become an informed consumer
“Make America Healthy Again” — What it really means
Follow the girls on instagram: @nataliekovarik and @taravanderdussen
And check out their podcast Discover Agriculture on all podcast platforms!
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Choose Hard podcast. |
0:02.6 | One and Only Fitness and Nutrition podcast that goes way beyond just training and nutrition |
0:06.4 | and helps you transform your body and your mind. |
0:09.9 | Now, today's podcast guests, two of them, are different than any guests that we have had on the show. |
0:14.5 | And I am really, really excited about it. |
0:16.3 | I cannot wait for you to listen this episode. |
0:17.9 | Today I'm talking to two farmers, a cattle rancher and |
0:21.9 | a dairy farmer. They own large farms, one in Nebraska and one in New Mexico, and produce cattle, |
0:27.7 | beef, and dairy. And it is a very, very interesting conversation because as I get into Tara and |
0:34.1 | Natalie's stories, we learn a lot more about what sustainable agriculture really is. |
0:39.8 | We learn about big farms and what makes the difference between a farm that is not properly |
0:45.0 | raising animals and producing the food that you and I consume versus the farms that are doing it |
0:50.7 | right, the sustainable farms that are family owned for generations on generations and truly care about the animals and the farming and the food that ends up on your plate and my plate. |
0:59.2 | They also have a podcast called Discover Agriculture, Discover Ag. |
1:02.3 | You can find that on any platform and they have social media profiles, both of them as well as one for the podcast, |
1:08.0 | all of which phenomenal content and just really drop a lot of somewhat |
1:11.1 | humorous at times, but also information-based content that it really educates you on everything |
1:16.4 | agriculture. So if you're interested in the quality of your food, the quality of the farming |
1:21.2 | that produced your food, or just curious on how to identify what food you should stay away from |
1:26.4 | and what practices on the level of the |
1:29.0 | farmer all the way to the packager who is delivering the meat or the dairy that you are consuming. |
1:33.7 | This is a great podcast for you. I think you're going to learn a ton. I think you're going to |
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