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Meredith, I'm not going to lie, it's we're getting late in the SHM day. I'm a little worried about it. Why? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it'll be a joint effort, so we'll be good. Oh, that was good, Moni. That was a pun. I know. I thought of that when I was at our guest talk and I was pretty proud of myself.

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I'm Dr. Monia Mean.

You're with my effervescent co-host, Dr. Meredith Trubit.

How are you this day?

It is the afternoon. I did have to think about it as well. I'm doing well. How about you?

You know, I'm feeling lucid, which is about as well as can be said right now.

So I'm actually having a great time.

Again, we're here from SHN Converged 2025.

Just got out of some great sessions.

And a session in particular, we wanted to bring in episode form was rheumatology for the hospice. And in a second, I will tell you a little bit about our guests. But before we do that, Meredith, will you please remind the good people in the audience what it is we do on the show? Sure, Mone. We are the internal medicine podcast. We use expert interviews to bring you clinical pearls and practice changing knowledge. Great. And our guest today is,

I just got out of her wonderful talk on rheumatology for the hospitalist, Dr. Kimberly Trotter.

She's an assistant professor of medicine at the University of Chicago. She did med school at the University of Maryland and then trained at University of Chicago. And she's the co-director

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