487: Why Feeling "Seen and Heard" Can Save Your Relationship and Your Sanity | Caroline Fleck, PhD
The Genius Life
Max Lugavere
4.7 • 4.7K Ratings
🗓️ 7 May 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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Dr. Caroline Fleck is a licensed clinical psychologist and executive coach, and the author of Validation, a powerful new book that teaches how to transform relationships and communication through the science of being seen, heard, and accepted.
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| 0:30.1 | What up, team? |
| 0:30.6 | It's episode 487 of the Genius Life. |
| 0:34.7 | Let's go. |
| 0:36.4 | Enside Genius. Let's go. |
| 1:01.4 | What up, What up everybody? I'm your host, Max Lugavir, and welcome back to The Genius Life, a show where we're not afraid to get deep, get real, and occasionally question our own lunch choices. |
| 1:08.0 | Today I'm joined by Dr. Caroline Fleck, a licensed clinical psychologist, executive coach, and author of the book, Validation. This conversation is all about how validation in its truest form |
| 1:11.7 | can radically transform relationships, improve mental health, and build bridges across even the |
| 1:17.3 | widest divides. We unpack the difference between validation and agreement, how it's used in |
| 1:22.0 | high stakes clinical therapy, why it's more powerful than love in some relationships, and how to use |
| 1:26.9 | it as a tool, even in |
| 1:28.3 | arguments about phones with your kids. A tough one I know. But make sure you listen through to the |
| 1:33.0 | end, because that's when things take a raw and vulnerable turn. We talk about depression, |
| 1:37.5 | trauma, chronic disease, and even navigate the complicated ethics of meat consumption, |
| 1:42.0 | cognitive dissonance, and animal welfare. |
| 1:47.6 | It's one of the most open-hearted conversations I've had on the show. |
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