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484: It Might Not Go The Way You Want. With Navy SEAL Command Master Chief, Jim Foreman.

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Jocko DEFCOR Network

Management, History, Business

4.8 β€’ 31.3K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 2 April 2025

⏱️ 156 minutes

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Jim Foreman is a retired U.S. Navy SEAL Command Master Chief

with 27 years of elite military service, including leadership at

Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU – SEAL Team 6) β€” one of the most selective and operationally demanding units in the world.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko Podcast number 484 with Echo Charles and me Jocko Wilink. Good evening, Echo.

0:05.0

Good evening.

0:06.0

All day, murderous bursts of machine gun fire hammered our position, shattering windows and impacting interior walls, each round with the violence and kinetic energy of a sledgehammer wielded at full force.

0:18.0

Some of the incoming rounds were armor piercing and punched through the thick concrete

0:22.2

of the low wall surrounding the rooftop.

0:25.1

All of our element of seals, EOD bomb technicians, and Iraqi soldiers could do under such

0:30.3

accurate enemy fire was hit the deck and try not to get our head shot off.

0:36.4

Rounds snapped inches above us,

0:38.3

and shards of glass and concrete fragments rain down everywhere.

0:42.3

Damn, some of those bastards can shoot, yelled a seal operator,

0:45.3

pressed as close to the floor as humanly possible.

0:48.3

We couldn't help but laugh at our predicament.

0:51.3

RPG7 rockets followed in rapid sequence of three or four, exploding with tremendous

0:56.9

concussion against the exterior walls.

1:00.2

Hunkered down inside the building, we were separated from the bone-jarring explosion and deadly

1:04.0

shrapnel by a foot or so of concrete.

1:08.1

One errant RPG rocket missed its mark and sailed high over the building, trailing across

1:12.7

the hazy, cloudless Iraqi summer sky like a bottle rocket on an American Fourth of July. But if just

1:18.8

one of those rockets impacted a window, it meant red-hot fragments of jagged metal ripping through

1:24.0

just about every man in the room. Despite the onslaught, we held our position in the large four-story apartment building.

1:33.3

When the fury of the attack subsided, our SEAL snipers returned fire with devastating effect.

1:40.1

As armed enemy fighters maneuvered through the streets to attack,

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