This is Jocko podcast number 478 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Also, back with us again for round two.

If you didn't listen to 477, we brought on Jason Wilson.

He's back again, and we are going to talk through where we, we're going to pick up where

we left off last time.

So last time, again, if you haven't listened to that one yet, go listen to 477.

We cover kind of, you know, Jason's background growing up, you know, what he went through

and how he ended up sitting here today talking to me, went through a lot of struggles as a young

man and a lot of temptations, a lot of off ramps that he could have taken along the way

But by the grace of God, he's here sitting with us and

We'll get back into it. So the movie comes out now is there is there possibilities of other movies yeah the talk the

main goal was cry like a man make that into a movie and that's what lawrence really loved that book

he he would tell me you can't even make this stuff up like we would have to get this out and so

we'll see what happens um definitely would love to do a movie on that

book i think it'd be really well i know it would be really powerful oh yeah um yeah so that's that's

the end goal it'd be good because man people need good examples and for someone that has been through

what you've been through and to still live a life that is exemplary is just such a great example for people.

And look, you're not, you know, it's cool if we make a movie about, you know, the football star or the rock and roll star or whatever,

but to make a movie about a normal man. Yes. Yeah. That does extraordinary things with

in a normal environment. You know what's, man, you're making me think of a lot of things that,

like, man, the path that I took trying to attain certain things

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