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So let's move to kind of personal questions that people have asked about you guys, your history, your intentions.

What are some of the biggest misperceptions? Do you ever feel misjudged?

Yes. There have been stories that we've stolen things out of the church archives, which we never have.

Like I told you on that microfilm, I just made a copy from their reader. There's nothing illegal in that.

So there's been some misunderstanding on some things that way where we've been accused of stealing stuff that we never did.

I know some other people who got things through conniving ways, but we never told anyone to or endorsed anyone.

I know one fellow at BYU was taking microfilms out of the BYU library and substituting another role of film in it, and then sending the microfilm out to have a copied and then go back and switch it back.

And so some things that came out came through that kind of a process, but we had nothing to do with that.

We may have benefited by it. We may have used some of the photographs later, but it wasn't something that was our method.

It wasn't our way of approaching things. We had people come to us and say, hey, I can go through the temple. I got a temple recommended.

I can go through and get the latest ritual. And we always told people no way to be right or not. We know enough about the temple.

We don't need someone to go through and get a new copy of it. For our means, we had enough research on it to show our problems with it.

We tried to discourage that sort of thing. Now I know new name Noah has filmed the whole thing and has it all up on the internet, and it's certainly fascinating to watch.

But again, it was not anything I would have encouraged or told someone to do. I troubled by that approach.

But we've been, anything that happens that way, we get accused of the being behind it all that we have done some way, something dishonest that way.

But sometimes you'll print things that were obtained inappropriately.

Well, like the Eugene England letter, yeah, if you want to say that was inappropriately, yeah. So one thing that's got some people upset was when we printed Mike Quinn's paper on being a Mormon historian, we felt that was in the public domain.

He gave a public talk. He distributed copies of the talk. A friend of ours wrote to him. I don't remember if she paid money, but she wrote for a copy of the talk that he sent to her.

And then we ended up printing it. We felt that that was in the public domain at that point. So I mean, yeah, made Quinn mad. And in hindsight, maybe it would have been better not to have done that.

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