I'm pulling on my driveway.

We all know what that means.

It's time to another drive to work.

Okay, guys, I got some technology working for me here.

So I did a podcast a while ago about my podcast,

when I talked about, I always hoped that I could phone in people

and how cool it would be if I could talk to people on the phone

while I drove to work.

And somebody wrote in and said, hey, here's an app that can do that.

So say hello, Gavin.

Hey, everybody.

So I have a call-in guest.

My first call is, guess it's not a carpooling with me.

So the idea is Gavin said he would test this out for a first ever interview with somebody not in the car.

So how are you doing, Gavin?

I'm doing pretty good. I'm coming to you live from the Hell Vault here at Wizards.

Okay, so let's start with Gavin.

I know that before you worked for Wizards, you were a magic fan.

So how did you get involved in magic?

Yeah, so I started playing magic when I was 10 years old, a little kid. I was like for other

games at the time, and a store owner showed me magic, and I was hooked immediately. I got my

brother into it, and we spent all night, all day, all of our extra time, basically, just playing

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