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Your Virtual Upline Podcast

470: Everything I Want to Say to Leaders Still Teaching the Old Way

Your Virtual Upline Podcast

Bob Heilig

Careers, Business, Education, Self-improvement

4.9 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever felt that nagging whisper inside you, telling you something's off, even when you're doing everything 'right' in your business? 

Are you tired of the endless pressure, the feeling that your worth is tied to a number, or that you're constantly fighting burnout?

If you're honest with yourself, you know this isn't how leadership was meant to feel…

In this episode, I rip back the curtain on what I call 'fear-led leadership', or that inherited system of urgency, performance-at-all-costs, and subtle manipulation that's keeping so many good people stuck, and I introduce you to our LOVE-LED™ growth philosophy. This isn't just a kinder tone; it's a complete reformation, a belief-first, trust-driven model that puts people, identity, and sustainable growth first, because this is about building from peace, not pressure.

And as a special sneak peek, I'm revealing the upcoming LOVE-LED™ Shift Series, a 5-part blueprint that will give you the exact tools and language to finally lead differently, which will be dropping all at once late next week as a podcast series you can binge. This isn't about improving the old way; it's about replacing it. So, if this hits something in you, don't look away. Lean in. Your shift starts now. Are you ready?

Listen to Learn:

5:49 - Decoding fear-led phrases and examples of what manipulation often sounds like

8:57 - The foundational principles of LOVE-LED™ growth and how represents a new standard built on belief and identity 

10:40 - Why this type of leadership honors your life and your priorities

12:04 - A look at genuine motivation and manipulative tactics disguised as leadership, and why it's time to dismantle the latter

12:59 - Debunking the myth that LOVE-LED™ growth avoids effort 

19:34 - The difference between a fear-based strategy and a deep-seated fear-built culture that can subtly sabotage teams and leaders

25:33 - What the three types of leaders are and identifying your role in the current landscape of our industry 

32:37 - An exclusive preview of the upcoming 5-part podcast series which will offer a complete framework to transform your leadership and build a business rooted in love, not fear.

 

469: What Happens When You Stop Performing and Start Leading

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Bob here.

0:02.5

Welcome to the Your Virtual Upline podcast.

0:12.4

I felt this my entire career, but I didn't know how to name it.

0:16.6

Nobody was speaking it.

0:18.6

And we give people the tools to lead from who they are.

0:22.4

And finally teach in a way that reflects what they believe.

0:25.6

See, the problem has never been your heart.

0:27.6

It is the system that has shaped your habits.

0:32.5

So every now and then, someone says something that forces a conversation that you've been avoiding,

0:39.9

if you're honest, not out of fear, but out of respect. And this week, that happened to me.

0:47.1

So someone that I admire has been a big supporter of our business, posted a message about us that I know came from a place of love and concern.

1:00.2

Two leaders that just want the best for the people that they're leading.

1:05.2

It was passionate, it was bold, and it was clear.

1:08.7

So I just want to read a quick little excerpt here.

1:11.5

So you have some context.

1:13.2

There are people out there, especially in this profession, who are praying on those who are tired, stuck, and discouraged.

1:21.4

There's a wave of coaches manipulating people with pretty messaging and false promises. And that if someone tells you growth

1:30.4

shouldn't feel hard or uncomfortable, you should run the other way. That maybe we don't need a

1:37.3

new way. We just need to work harder and stop looking for an easier path. Now here's the thing. This person is not wrong

1:48.9

about the problem. Manipulation is real and hype is being sold. And there are people that are

1:58.0

preying on pain without offering a real solution. But here's what I need to say

2:06.2

clearly. What we're doing here today that I'm going to introduce to most of you for the first time

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