Hello everybody. I'm in London UK today just arrived this morning. I had the

opportunity to speak with Pierce Morgan. I've got to know Pierce a little bit. He's always

treated me very fairly as a journalist and also my daughter who's interviewed a

couple of times and so we had a chance today to sit down and talk.

And Pierce has moved out of mainstream legacy

broadcasting and into the online space.

And he's actually kind of a first mover on the European and UK side with regards to such a move and so he has a very popular enterprise Pierce Morgan uncensored, which is actually kind of a hybrid between

a legacy media news approach and the more free-flowing conversation and investigation that YouTube in particular enables.

And so we talked a fair bit about how he got to that point, the development of his his career we talked a fair bit as well about

Britain's got talent and America's got talent and the strict meritocracy that those shows

represent and the implications for the value of

meritocracy in the public landscape. We talked about his orientation,

increasing orientation in relationship to his own curiosity,

his desire to change his mind and to learn,

and how that plays into learning to listen

and into running an increasingly successful private news and

public affairs operation, which is what he has on YouTube, a very, very rapidly growing channel.

And so, and we talked a little bit about the British political scene.

As most of you know, the UK people elected a new government only a few days ago headed by Kir Starmer

we had a chance to talk about that as well and that made up the bulk of our interaction so join us. So tell me what you've

been doing that's particularly interesting. I'd like to know about your work on online in

particular. You've really blown up as a journalist and so what do you think you're

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