Hello, everyone. Hello everybody so I had the privilege of speaking with musician John Rich today and we

really focused on a new song he released called Revelation and I guess we hit that from two different perspectives because by John's testimony the song came to him

like a revelation the lyrics and the music sort of pre-made and that's a fairly common phenomena

among expert musicians and I wanted to delve into the

psychological preconditions for that to occur. It's a very religiously

oriented song and so we talked about his movement

away from the typical studio musician relationship and his foray into being an independent musician,

and why that happened and what it meant and how it freed him up creatively.

And we also talked about the psychological and theological or spiritual implications of the song because the song itself,

revelation, is a, what is it, it's a, it's a revelation of the spirit of the book by that name.

And so we talked about all of that.

And the personal elements of it too,

because Rich regards himself as somewhat of a prodigal son who went way out as a young man into the domain of extreme temptation and then straighten out his life and so we also discussed

why he did that and how he realized that that was necessary and what that has meant to him as a man and as a father as a musician and as a what

would as as an agent of public influence as well so join us for that.

Hello, sir, well, we might as well jump right into this.

I listened to your song, Revelation,

three or four times on the way over here,

and I guess I'm kind of curious,

you made some you made some references to it

making the case that it kind of came to kind of came to you in a way that was different

if I understand properly it was different from many of the songs that you've written.

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