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466: Some Lessons Are Learned By Getting Smacked In The Face. With Lt. James Lechner

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4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2024

⏱️ 135 minutes

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In 1993 Lieutenant James Lechner, a member of the 3rd Ranger Battalion, was selected for a top secret special operations task force being sent to Mogadishu, Somalia, to capture the insurgent leader Mohamed Farah Aideed. In early October, after conducting a number of raids in the city, the Task Force is called upon to conduct a daring daylight mission into the heart of Aideed's territory. During the raid, one of the Black Hawk helicopters is shot down and Lechner and his comrades are soon caught up in the fiercest combat involving US forces since the Vietnam War. Deep in the enemy's stronghold, the small group of Rangers and special operators now find themselves fighting not only to rescue the downed helicopter's crewmen, but also to save their own lives



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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 466 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

0:04.2

Good evening, Echo.

0:05.2

Good evening.

0:06.2

And also joining us once again is retired Army Lieutenant Colonel Jim Lekner, who was a Ranger

0:13.1

in the battle detailed in the book and movie Black Hawk Down, who wrote about his own experiences

0:18.8

in a book called With My Shield, an Army Ranger in Somalia,

0:23.0

which we covered on our last podcast, number 465.

0:26.0

If you haven't listened that podcast, go back and check that one out.

0:29.3

Jim Lechner fought in that battle, led in that battle, called in fire support during that battle,

0:35.1

was eventually wounded pretty severely in that battle,

0:39.5

but that was not the end of his career

0:40.6

through the incredible work of our military medical system.

0:44.3

His leg was saved, and he carried on with his career.

0:47.3

And I eventually served alongside him

0:50.8

in the Battle of Vermont in 2006,

0:53.9

where he was the deputy brigade commander

0:56.0

of the Ready First Brigade, the First Armored Division.

0:59.8

And he's joining us once again.

1:01.5

So, Jim, thanks for coming back.

1:02.8

Appreciate it.

1:03.6

Thank you.

1:04.1

Great to be here.

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