This is Self-Work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

At Self-Work, we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them,

whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment.

Eight years ago, I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you who might already be

knowledgeable about middle health treatment, but also to those of you who might say you'd never

darken the door of a therapist. And yet, you are here. I'll answer your questions while I invite

you to take a few minutes for your

own self-work. There's still this weird idea that like if you move on too fast from the death

of your partner, for instance, people are watching you and they're judging you and they're casting

aspersions about how much you really loved.

It's just all weird, weird stuff.

And I think the older you get and the more removed you are from the loss, the less you care what other people think.

Welcome to this week's edition of Self Work.

My guest for this episode of Self Work is Leslie Gray Streeter, a woman I've known, or if she

explains to me, is a parisocial friend of mine, since 2019 or 2020. We both had books come out

right before the pandemic, and we both knew a woman named Cindy Metzler, who introduced us. Leslie's

first book was about the death of her husband.

It was called Black Widow. It was a wonderful book and was told with such biting truth and

gritty humor that I knew I wanted to keep up with her, and I have. I followed her on Instagram and that

kind of thing. So who's Leslie Gray Streeter? This is what she says on her website says,

cool stuff about Leslie.

She's born in Hood-adjacent Baltimore City.

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