Hello and welcome to best case, worst case. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profile of former New York City

prosecutor and writer-producer of Criminal Minds and Bluebeard on Audible. And with me today is

Maureen O'Connell, retired FBI agent and member of the evidence response team for 20 years.

And today we have two very, very special guests that we know pretty darn well. First,

Bill Thomas. I'm the brother of Kathy Thomas, who's the first victim in the so-called Colonial Parkway

murders. I'm the co-host of Mind Over Murder with my podcast partner, Kristen Dilly.

I'm Kristen Dilley. I am the co-host of the Mind Over Murder podcast, along with my partner, Bill Thomas.

I am a writer, a researcher, a teacher, and a victim's advocate.

Well, thank you both for doing what you do and for being here with us today because obviously,

I know you reached out to me earlier in the week, Kristen, and said things were happening.

So let's catch our listeners up from the inside.

Yes, there have been some news reports, but tell me what's going on.

Well, we heard about a week ago now that there'd been a significant development in the

Colonial Parkway murders. Almost two years ago, a man named Alan Wade Wilmer Sr., who died in

2017, was identified via DNA DNA and that connected him to the murder of one of our

Colonial Parkway murders couples. Their names were Robin Edwards and David Nobling and they were

murdered in 1987. They're the second in the series of what's considered the Colonial Parkway murders.

Further, Wilmer, it was announced almost two years ago now, was linked to the murder of an

individual, a woman named Teresa Howell, who was murdered in 1989.

Now they've connected Wilmer via another case, which is sometimes referred to

Kristen Dilley, I think coined this expression, Parkway adjacent cases. These were cases,

other murder cases that were taking place in Virginia around the same time, this 1986 to 89 timeframe,

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