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#461 – ThePrimeagen: Programming, AI, ADHD, Productivity, Addiction, and God

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 22 March 2025

⏱️ 330 minutes

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Summary

ThePrimeagen (aka Michael Paulson) is a programmer who has educated, entertained, and inspired millions of people to build software and have fun doing it.
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ThePrimeagen's X: https://twitter.com/ThePrimeagen
ThePrimeagen's YouTube: https://youtube.com/ThePrimeTimeagen
ThePrimeagen's Twitch: https://twitch.tv/ThePrimeagen
ThePrimeagen's GitHub: https://github.com/theprimeagen
ThePrimeagen's TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@theprimeagen
ThePrimeagen's Coffee: https://www.terminal.shop/

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OUTLINE:
(00:00) - Introduction
(10:27) - Love for programming
(20:00) - Hardest part of programming
(22:16) - Types of programming
(29:54) - Life story
(39:58) - Hardship
(41:29) - High school
(47:15) - Porn addiction
(57:01) - God
(1:12:44) - Perseverance
(1:22:40) - Netflix
(1:35:08) - Groovy
(1:40:13) - Printf() debugging
(1:46:35) - Falcor
(1:56:05) - Breaking production
(1:58:49) - Pieter Levels
(2:03:19) - Netflix, Twitch, and YouTube infrastructure
(2:15:22) - ThePrimeagen origin story
(2:30:37) - Learning programming languages
(2:39:40) - Best programming languages in 2025
(2:44:35) - Python
(2:45:15) - HTML & CSS
(2:46:05) - Bash
(2:46:45) - FFmpeg
(2:53:28) - Performance
(2:56:00) - Rust
(3:00:48) - Epic projects
(3:14:12) - Asserts
(3:23:26) - ADHD
(3:31:34) - Productivity
(3:35:58) - Programming setup
(4:11:28) - Coffee
(4:18:32) - Programming with AI
(5:01:16) - Advice for young programmers
(5:12:48) - Reddit questions
(5:20:20) - God

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with Michael Paulson, better known online as The Primogen.

0:06.3

He is a programmer who has entertained and inspired millions of people to have fun building stuff with software,

0:13.5

whether you're a newbie or a seasoned developer who has been battling it out in the software engineering trenches for decades.

0:22.7

In short, the Primogen is a legendary programmer and a great human being with an inspiring

0:29.0

roller coaster of a life story. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out

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in the description.

0:39.6

It is, in fact, the best way to support this podcast.

0:43.4

We are In Video AI for video generation,

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better help for your health,

0:54.1

and AG1 for delicious nutrition. Choose wisely, my friends.

0:56.2

Also, if you want to work with our amazing team

0:59.2

or get in touch with you for whatever reason,

1:01.2

go to Lexfreedman.com slash contact.

1:03.2

And now, onto the full ad reads,

1:05.8

as always, no ads in the middle.

1:07.2

I try to make this interesting,

1:08.7

but if you must skip them, please still

1:11.2

check out the sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. This episode is brought to you by

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In Video AI, a video generating app that allows you to create full-length videos using just text

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prompts. I have been using it more and more myself

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