I have a professor of endocrinology, which is the study of hormones on my podcast today.

Mary Ryan has come over from Ireland.

We talk a lot about hormones in general, what they are, how they all work together, how

magical they are for our bodies to function well and how they so often have been misunderstood.

So, enjoy this episode.

So, Mary, I'm really excited to finally meet you in real life.

Thank you, Louise. We've been corresponding for a while. And in fact, when you first wanted to come on

my podcast, I didn't, I wasn't doing it out of the studio. And now you're here. You've flown over

from Ireland with your lovely son. Thank you. And, you know, I had Fonella on my podcast

talking about Ireland and I wish you could say that it's better than over here for access to hormones.

But I don't think it is really, is it? No, no. A lot of our patches like Easter Dot are unavailable and

with generic patches that don't absorb as well and they're

falling off and patients are sticking them on with tape, which isn't ideal. But we're both empowered

women Louise, so we're going to just keep advocating. Yes. And we really believe that women are

a need treatment and it know, when we think what

women and one of the reasons I and you got involved in all this area was that we heard the

stories and as doctors we hear stories and the real stories. And I think that's what's, we're

privileged as doctors to hear the real stories. But unfortunately, we heard the stories of suffering

of women in their 60s and 70s and 80s

who told me how they were severely anxious, severely depressed.

You know, one woman said how she had dreadful perennial itching, dryness, intimacy was absolutely

not able and it completely destroyed her marriage.

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