Mark Horowitz is on my podcast today, and this is actually going to blow your mind.

You might have to listen to it more than once.

We talk about antidepressants, we talk about benzodiazepines, we talk about gabapentinin,

progabalin, these highly addictive drugs that are prescribed more commonly than HRT and have more risks with them.

We need to be thinking differently about mental health. And his perspective on things,

including his research, is really interesting. And I just hope it makes you think of it

differently. So Mark, this is great that you've come in today. I know it's going to be a very interesting

podcast that's going to resonate with a lot of people. People might be wondering why I'm

holding such a big, heavy book that I've slugged across London, but it's the Maudsley

deprescribing guidelines, antidepressants, benzodiazepines, gabapentinoids, which is gabapentin and progabalin, and

Zed drugs, which are the sort of Zopachlone sleeping tablets. And you are a co-author of this. And

you've written so many papers. Your knowledge is huge and I just wanted to get as much out of your

lovely brain for the next half an hour.

So just before we start, though, just explain a bit about your background if you don't mind, Mark.

Thanks having me on.

And if the book is heavy to carry, imagine how hard it was to write.

So thank you.

So I'm Mark Horowitz.

I'm a training psychiatrist and researcher.

I'm an associate professor of psychiatry at Adelaide University and I'm a Horowitz. I'm a training psychiatrist and researcher. I'm an associate professor of

psychiatry at Adelaide University, and I'm a visiting lecturer in psychopharmacology at King's College,

London. And I run a deprescribing clinic that's specialised in helping people to stop

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