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Happiness Podcast

#45 Happiness – Monastery of San Francisco and Our Death

Happiness Podcast

Dr. Robert Puff, Ph.D.

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.5955 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2014

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

While on vacation to Peru, Dr. Robert Puff visited the Monastery of San Francisco's Catacombs and discusses our own limited life-span and learning how to live well in the face of and ultimate truth of our deaths.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the happiness podcast. I'm Dr. Robert Puff.

0:15.0

Over the past two weeks, I was on vacation with my family, visiting the lovely country of Peru.

0:21.0

It was my first time there, and I really did enjoy it. There is one part of the

0:25.9

trip though that I want to talk about and it isn't what you may be thinking, Machu Picchu.

0:30.8

Actually what I want to talk about is my visit to the monastery of San Francisco

0:37.2

and the catacombs they had underneath the monastery. The monastery had its beginnings in Lima, Peru, in 1673, and it's been the home to Franciscan

0:48.3

monks ever since that time.

0:50.6

If you've been a Catholic over the centuries and knew your death was approaching, you did have the option of being buried underneath the monasteries.

0:59.0

This place where they buried you was called the Catacombs.

1:02.0

Well, my family and I visited the catacombs. Well my family and I visited the catacombs and believe

1:05.4

it or not there are about 70,000 people buried underneath the monastery. It was truly

1:11.2

amazing and quite an experience.

1:14.0

But of all the experiences that stood out to me,

1:17.0

the one that was most prominent,

1:19.0

was the fact that of these 70,000 people

1:22.0

who had been buried underneath this monastery, there wasn't one person

1:26.4

who they were able to identify.

1:28.8

It was just thousands and thousands of bones and skulls, but no people were known to associate it with

1:35.4

each of these skeletons. They were nameless in death, and no memory of them survives. But how do the catacombs of San Francisco Monastery relate

1:46.0

to us? How do they have anything to do with happiness? I think as a listener to this podcast we probably all have that temptation to think I'm going to live forever, I'm going to be remembered, death isn't going to come to me.

2:02.0

But the real truth is that it will come to all of us.

2:06.2

And with time, maybe not overnight, maybe not in a hundred years, but with time we too will be forgotten. We will be put to the ground, perhaps cremated,

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