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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

443. Poker Face: The Framework for Navigating Professional Uncertainty with Tiffany Michelle

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Business, Management, Entrepreneurship

5.0 β€’ 539 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The cards you're dealt matter far less than what you do with your emotions when you pick them up. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Tiffany Michelle, world-class poker player, ESPN commentator, and one of the most recognizable faces in professional poker, to unpack what the game reveals about decision-making, emotional regulation, and how leaders can compete at the highest level. Tiffany brings the mindset of a champion to a conversation about the hidden cost of letting your emotions drive your strategy at the table and in your firm. Here's what you'll learn: Why emotional regulation, not talent or luck, is the single greatest separator between good players and great ones, and what that means for how you lead your firm How to make confident decisions when you're operating with incomplete information, high pressure, and no time to think What the 3 Cs of high performance (Clarity, Competitive Edge, and Calibration) look like in practice for attorneys navigating a high-stakes career If you want to stop letting your emotions cost you the hand, this episode is your playbook. ---- Show Notes: 02:17 – Tiffany shares how her grandfather taught her poker as a kid and why competing against her brothers lit a competitive fire that never went out. 05:35 – What actually separates good players from great ones, and why emotion regulation is the skill most people underestimate. 08:53 – Why the best players think 20 levels deep while most are still playing the surface, and how that gap shows up in every high-stakes decision. 13:45 – How to make confident decisions with incomplete information, combining what is automatic, what is analytical, and what is instinctual. 18:14 – Why great results do not always reflect great decisions, and how to reverse-engineer your process instead of just chasing outcomes. 23:07 – Tiffany's 3 Cs framework, Clarity, Competitive Edge, and Calibration, and how to apply them to your career and firm. 28:07 – How she stayed mentally locked in at the 2008 World Series of Poker with 27 players left, a fresh breakup, and $9 million on the line. 31:25 – Decision fatigue unpacked: why the problem is not thinking too much but treating every decision like it deserves the same weight. 42:35 – Looking back at the 2008 main event and the one thing she would have done differently, asking for help sooner. 52:49 – What being a game changer means to Tiffany, and why the biggest wins come from stepping boldly into uncertainty rather than waiting to feel ready. ---- Links & Resources: Tiffany Michelle World Series of Poker Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke Chris Moneymaker Daniel Negreanu Phil Hellmuth ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 334. Dr. Benjamin Hardy β€” From Limiting Beliefs to Limitless Potential: A Guide to Personal Growth 161. Joe De Sena β€” The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 71. Tim Grover β€” Winning: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness

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0:00.0

Poker face is emotion regulation.

0:04.6

It's not letting my own ego, emotions, and bias influence my decision.

0:09.7

That's Tiffany Michelle, World Series of Poker Champion.

0:13.9

Bluffing is not about bravado and it's not about deception.

0:18.0

It's about reading people.

0:19.7

It's about understanding your opponent, understanding the situation, and making a play

0:24.9

because you have a sense that it's the right time to move.

0:35.4

I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:40.3

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:43.3

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:48.3

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:52.3

Our approach has been to take everything

0:54.2

we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's

0:58.4

most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this

1:02.6

podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from

1:07.4

those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

1:13.6

I sat down with Tiffany to discuss

1:15.6

why emotional regulation is the highest leverage skill in the room,

1:18.6

the role of luck versus skill when it comes to good and bad outcomes,

1:21.6

and how to make better decisions with incomplete information.

1:24.6

We can't eliminate uncertainty.

1:26.6

We can only learn to operate more comfortably within it.

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