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Hello and welcome to dear Hank and John.

Or as I prefer to think of it, dear John and Hank.

It's a podcast where two brothers answer your questions, give you to recent advice,

and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. John, I once heard about two communists who were sitting on the beach

at a nudist colony. Whoa. And one of them says to the other, have you read marks? And the other

said, yes, it's these dang wicker chairs.

So see, that's a good dad joke, Hank.

That got me.

So listen, Hank, are we actually going to do this thing?

Are we actually going to put aside the entire schick of this podcast to answer one question,

what happened to John in 2014? I think, sure.

Look, I forgot about this promise that we made, and I'm glad that you remembered. I am not prepared,

but I have been talking about it with my therapist. I was going to say, haven't you spent 12 years preparing?

It's funny, I finally, after a long time of working with my therapist, I finally was like,

there's probably something you should know. And it was a really weird conversation.

Okay, so tell me, let's start there. Let's start with what was the conversation? How did you explain 2014 to your therapist? I mean, she doesn't know what Tumblr is. Neither do a lot of our listeners. And so we should give the your therapist version. Yeah, yeah. Recently I said to my therapist, I bet you don't even know who Matt Walsh is. And she was like, I don't. But I will learn if you need me to. And I was like,

that's the sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me. I don't know who Matt Walsh is. That's great. That's great. Is he a good guy? Are am I on his team or am I not on his team? I don't think you're on his team. Okay, great. That's helpful feedback. Solid. 2014, Hank. Take us back.

What did you tell your therapist?

Well, so there was this long period of time when it was all like kind of simple and sparkly.

Yes.

As being a vlog brother went.

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