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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

436. What Your Left Brain Won’t Tell Your Right Brain | Dr. Iain McGilchrist

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 1 April 2024

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with psychiatrist, researcher, and philosopher Dr. Iain McGilchrist. They discuss right brain/left brain hemispheric specialization, the basis of delusion, “unknowing” as a necessary step toward wisdom, consciousness and the divine ground of being, and the imposition of mediocrity in the modern West. Dr. Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, neuroscience researcher, philosopher and literary scholar. He is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, an Associate Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford, a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and former Consultant Psychiatrist and Clinical Director at the Bethlem Royal & Maudsley Hospital, London. He has been a Research Fellow in neuroimaging at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore and a Fellow of the Institute of Advanced Studies in Stellenbosch. He has published original articles and research papers in a wide range of publications on topics in literature, philosophy, medicine and psychiatry. He is the author of a number of books, but is best-known for The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World (Yale 2009). In November 2021 his two-volume work The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World was published by Perspectiva Press. - Links - 2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/ For Iain McGilchrist: Website https://channelmcgilchrist.com/ On X https://twitter.com/dr_mcgilchrist?lang=en The Matter With Things (Book) https://tinyurl.com/5d3cfns6 The Master and His Emissary (Book) https://tinyurl.com/3p4favfe

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0:00.0

Hello. Hello everyone. I had the opportunity today to meet in person with Dr.

0:19.6

Ian McGillchrist. I've spoken with Dr. McGillchrist a couple of times, a couple of times in person and

0:26.7

also on my podcast by Zoom. And we're here in Georgia today and we happen to be in the same place at the same time.

0:34.8

So we thought we'd sit down and conduct a lengthy investigation into our,

0:40.4

under the similarities in our thought and the differences and to see where we could get and

0:46.3

that's what we're inviting you to partake in.

0:48.3

I wanted to talk to Dr. Miguel Chris because we share an interest in neuropsychology, particularly in

0:56.2

hemispheric specialization. He's very interested in the relationship between the

1:01.0

manner in which the left hemisphere and its relatively reductive proclivity

1:05.8

sees the world compared to the more expansive and holistic in some sense.

1:11.2

Right hemisphere, I'm very interested in how that maps on to conceptualizations

1:16.1

of the Luciferian intellect, which are pervasive in mythology. That's one of the things

1:19.9

we discuss. We discuss also the surprising relationship between attention and morality

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because Dr. Midgirl, Chris, believes as I do, and I think this is more than a

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belief. I actually think it's an established fact that attention is a

1:36.0

valuing process and what that essentially means is that the way the world makes itself

1:41.2

manifest to us is in accordance with our aim, our

1:45.4

attention, and our values that we see the world through a structure of values and

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we attend to those things that we value.

1:53.4

And that is a realization and an empirical realization

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for that matter of immense import

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because it suggests that the world presents itself in accordance with your aims.

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