Did Jesus really found the Catholic Church with a pun?

So on Sonia, this next.

Hello and welcome to Focus.

The Catholic Dance was podcast for living, understanding, and defending your Catholic faith.

I'm Psychella at your host, and if you engage at all in defending the Catholic faith,

one of the things that you will have to defend is the papacy.

And in order to do that, you're going to have to defend the special role of Peter,

a special role given to Peter by Christ himself.

And if you're going to defend that proposition,

you're going to have to get clear on what exactly did Jesus mean when he said,

Thou art Peter, and upon this rock, I will build my church.

Well, in order to get clear on that, we turn to Bible scholars.

We turn to the history and tradition of the church.

And for this episode, we turn to Swan Sona to clear it all up for us.

Here's what he had to say.

So on Sonia, Catholic answers affiliate apologists.

Thank you for being with us.

I'm glad to be back.

So here's one of those things that comes up a lot in apologetics conversations

between Catholics and Protestants, but not only between Catholics and Protestants.

This is trying to get exactly what it means that Peter is called Peter, meaning the rock,

and that Jesus says upon this rock, I will build my church.

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