What about the theory that Pope Benedict resigned only part of the papacy?

Apologist Michael Lofton is next.

Hello and welcome to focus the Catholic answers podcast for living, understanding,

and defending your Catholic faith. I'm Sy Kelly at your host.

And our guest this time is Apologist Michael Lofton. Michael Lofton has actually been quite

critical of Pope Francis, and so we thought he was the perfect guy to ask about this theory that

has been going around whether or not Pope Francis actually holds all of the papacy or whether

some of it was reserved to Pope Benedict in the manner of his resignation or if maybe the manner

of the Pope's resignation means that all of it is still with Benedict. Here's what Michael Lofton

had to say.

Michael Lofton, the hardest working man in apologetics and affiliate apologists here at

Catechance just thanks for being with us.

Thanks for having me back on Sy.

You are my take on you as you're not some crazy wild-eyed liberal

and you're very fair in your in your approach to

assessing the situation in the church. So I wanted to talk to you about the

just because I think that gives you a certain credibility to speak and be trusted on this whole

question about the papacy with Pope Francis. Is he the Pope? Is he not the Pope? We have these

two words, we have to tell me the two words now. I forgot.

Ministerium and Monus, yeah. I didn't know how to say the Monus one.

All right. And all that going on. So that's what I want to talk with you about today, right?

Absolutely. Sounds great. And I'm glad that you bring up that point there about being

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