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The Talk Show With John Gruber

406: ‘Hock TUAW’, With Christina Warren

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2024

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Christina Warren (a.k.a. “Mary Brown”) returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new iOS 18.1 and MacOS 15.1 betas (featuring Apple Intelligence), a little reminiscing about Gil Amelio and Steve Jobs, and the bizarre saga of TUAW, resurrected as a zombie AI slopsite.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The breaking news, if we want to get right into it, yesterday, I was 18.1, and Mac OS 15.1, Sequoia

0:10.6

betas shipped with some Apple intelligence features.

0:15.6

Yeah, which I'm glad they did that but this dual beta process that's fun.

0:21.2

I got the night before. Yeah, Sunday night. I got invited to a WebX briefing from Apple PR. And they never did. I don't think this is breaking the omerta the NDA of do you agree that this is on background but their usual technique is not to tell you what the briefing is about even. I don't care and oftentimes based on who

0:48.3

from Apple PR is reaching out to me I have a very good guess sometimes but sometimes not and this is one where it's not because it is sort of general right it's not like there are people at Apple PR who are in charge of developer betas, you know, just sort of like iOS people or Mac people or something.

1:07.1

But I am so, I'm so mad once I found out what it was, I'm fuming that I didn't guess weeks ago that they might do that this summer with the Apple Intelligence.

1:22.0

Because I realize this is very strange to have with the Apple Intelligence.

1:22.8

Because I realize this is very strange

1:24.8

to have two forks of the next years.

1:29.2

But if ever there was a reason to do that,

1:31.6

I think Apple Intelligence would be it.

1:33.7

No, I mean it makes sense on a lot of levels.

1:35.9

I mean one I think just to really be able to hone in on testing and getting feedback

1:40.9

on those specific features, right?

1:43.0

So that's one part of it.

1:44.2

And then the secondary part is,

1:45.9

as Apple's product catalog becomes more varied,

1:49.3

it does become difficult and has more architectures, right?

1:52.6

You do start to have this increasing kind of dichotomy

1:55.6

between what features are supported on what platforms.

1:58.8

And that's hard to ship even in a normal OS update.

2:01.2

But I think in a beta, that could be a really difficult thing to like okay how can we zone in on what are what are show stopping bugs and what are specific things maybe that are specific to this architecture that whatever version of the binary we wind up shipping these

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