First time guest on the talk show, Hunter Hillagus.

Welcome.

I just double check the pronunciation of your surname.

I have been meaning to have you on this show for years and I can't think of any better occasion to break my procrastination streak on inviting you here than the closing of the

Mirage in Vegas. Right. Yeah, just as we're recording this what week ago

yeah. Yeah about I guess a week ago yesterday. And the reason is that Hunter, you are the

developer of Fantastic and I think very longstanding iPhone app called Vegas Me?

Yeah, that's right.

It was in the App Store, not on the very first day.

Took a couple of weeks to get through that initial app review, but since 2008.

So yeah, it's a fairly niche travel app for people that are doing Las Vegas stuff, but it's it's long standing

Let's put a thumb tag in that and we'll come back to it for the majority of the show

But let's warm up with a totally utterly uncontroversial topic just to welcome you to the show guns.

Yeah no opinions there. Did you did you see though the news that Twitter well now X has you know how they have their own custom

emoji set oh yes yes I did do this I know what you're going to say so

so a why does Andy I to me the broader topic is why any of these services have custom

emoji sets. But B, I think, I will put a link to the emojiojipedia article about this in the show notes so people can look at it and see the before and afters.

But like prior to 2017, I want to say, I guess it might be one of the original emoji from whenever they started in Japan that one of them is a gun and until 2017 they all looked like real guns usually handguns like a

revolver type thing and then in 2017 Apple broke the seal and changed their gun emoji to look like a kid's

squirt gun. It's a little green see through it. It's clearly a squirt gun. And I guess it was somewhat controversial at the time

in terms of, that's just a euphemism, blah, blah,

but in short order, I think within two or three years, all of the other people, companies that make

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