Chance Miller, it's good to have you on the show. You are one of the Ace reporters over at 9 to 5 Mac,

and I've been meaning to have you on for a while. You've started, you've been doing great work over it. I'd say 9 to 5 Mac as a whole is as really, really been doing great and I just

want to thank you to get that out there and I think Apple is starting to or not

starting to but is recognizing it even further right you you've started

yeah like some statements and exclusive releases from Apple that go to you. What are some examples? They're the

sort of thing Apple doesn't want to write a newsroom post about but still

wants out there. They're the biggest one is probably the Apple Watch ban thing where the Apple watch because of the

blood oxygen center stuff and for whatever reason they came to us to break that story and

I guess I can probably say now but it was like a Saturday night briefing.

They were clearly down to the wire trying to figure out what was going to happen with that case.

And for whatever reason, they came to us. And there's been a shift for sure I don't exactly know why it's probably

It's I mean when you do the grunt work for so long I like to think that they realize it and they're more accepting to work with you I don't know

but that's yeah I like to think that it's not just completely random yeah I don't think so either I of, I really do mean it as deserving and it's sort of a,

I would love to be a fly on the wall inside Apple PR for how they made that decision.

Why go to Chance Miller at 9 to 5 Mac with significant news?

And again, what's the give everybody for people who aren't paying close attention the backstory on the ban, which is actually still ongoing.

It's still ongoing.

What they gave to us was the ITC had ruled that the Apple Watch blood oxygen sensor infringed on a patent from a health tech company

Massimo Massimo Massimo.

Yeah, Massimo, one of the other.

Whatever.

And basically when they came to us and when we broke the story, they had a week or so, I think, for the Biden administration to veto the ITC ruling. And if Biden didn't do it, then the Apple Watch will be pulled because of that infringement.

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