It's a holiday weekend, sort of, so I felt who better than my good friend John.

Happy to do it.

Particularly when you said that we would just be talking about TV shows, assuming that's what we're going to do.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we should do, because I kind of, I just did a show with Quinn

Nelson and we kind of covered the W.W. D.C. The only news that sort of has broken this week is that the EU's announced a thing against

Microsoft which I don't really have a lot to add other than of course.

Yeah, I don't know.

Well, they're sharing the wealth.

I keep meaning to get a column out about this and I will soon.

I know, although, I don't't know do you feel this way to like when you

podcast something it takes all the all the urge to write out of it it does feel like sometimes I'm just repeating myself a lot, yeah.

Yeah, I feel like if I've I feel like it should be the other way.

I feel like if I've talked about it on a podcast, I should still have the urge to put it in writing where I feel like I'm good with words.

Yeah, yeah, I think it's a better way to make sure that you're saying what you mean to say as opposed to on a podcast

But I find that what actually happens though is is sort of the opposite if I've written about

something first I still don't mind blathering about it on a podcast but once I've

podcast it it does somehow there's a part of my brain.

But I guess the thing that...

Before we move on, I keep coming back to the fact that it obviously people's opinions about

The EU and the DMA and Apple are polarized to say the least I think that's I think that's a fair description. There's some people who are go-go European Union stick it to Apple this day they're getting what they deserve and from people I keep hearing from people who who think that the government or a

government anywhere forcing Apple to in particular open up the app store

isn't just what these people want or what a

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