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Tech Policy Podcast

404: The Worst Possible Moment to Break Encryption

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.845 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Corbin Barthold (TechFreedom) discusses the recent spate of attacks on end-to-end encryption—and free speech more broadly—in the United Kingdom and United States. Links: U.K. Orders Apple to Let It Spy on Users’ Encrypted Accounts (https://tinyurl.com/mr3rkckd) Tech Policy Podcast 356: The UK Targets End-to-End Encryption (https://tinyurl.com/26waj4bn) The UK’s state-funded anti-encryption propaganda (https://tinyurl.com/29f3xynf) The UK Has A Voyeuristic New Propaganda Campaign Against Encryption (https://tinyurl.com/2xfcpw8k)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, boys and girls.

0:25.5

Welcome back to the tech policy podcast.

0:28.9

I'm Corbyn Barthold.

0:32.3

Scheduling a podcast can actually be quite tricky.

0:36.1

You never know what will happen with your guests. They have

0:39.8

busy lives themselves and things happen to them. And then you find yourself like I am here,

0:45.5

by myself with you today. It's just me, but I think it'll work out for the best because it gives me a chance to return to a topic on the show that I've wanted to get back to for quite some time.

1:02.3

End-end encryption seems like it is always threatened.

1:07.1

But right now, several governments are really putting the screws to this technology at what seems like the absolute worst possible moment for them to be doing so.

1:21.1

So let's dive right in.

1:23.0

On February 7th, the Washington Post dropped an article.

1:28.7

UK orders Apple to let it spy on users' encrypted accounts.

1:34.0

And let's start just straight with the lead from that piece,

1:38.4

which really was quite earthshaking to those of us in this space.

1:43.4

Quote, security officials in the United Kingdom

1:45.8

have demanded that Apple create a backdoor,

1:48.4

allowing them to retrieve all the content

1:50.4

any Apple user worldwide has uploaded to the cloud.

1:54.8

British government's undisclosed order issued last month,

1:58.4

so that would have been in January,

2:00.6

requires blanket capability to view

2:02.6

fully encrypted material, not merely assistance in cracking a specific account, and it has no

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