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Tech Policy Podcast

403: The Constitutional Crisis

Tech Policy Podcast

TechFreedom

Technology

4.845 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez (Law & Chaos) discuss the Trump administration’s renditions to El Salvador, its purges of Justice Department lawyers, and other heinous things you should worry about. Links: Law & Chaos (https://tinyurl.com/yykzstaa) Trump v. J.G.G. (SCOTUS) (https://tinyurl.com/35uj7s2f) Noem v. Abrego Garcia (4th Cir.) (https://tinyurl.com/4u3u43ak) Trump docket w/ CourtListener links (https://tinyurl.com/y9ys95x6) The Constitutional Crisis Is Here (https://tinyurl.com/4947kfkd)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the tech policy podcast. I'm Corbyn Barthold.

0:29.5

This podcast does what it says on the tin. It is a podcast about tech policy.

0:39.9

It is a tech policy podcast.

0:42.4

That is not going to change.

0:46.4

Keep coming here to learn all you need to know about Section 230,

0:51.5

AI, encryption, quantum computing, online porn,

0:57.8

how space suits work, and on and on. There will always be new stupid internet bills for us to discuss. But right now, my beloved listeners, things are dark. I don't say that

1:08.3

casually. We are entering a constitutional crisis.

1:13.9

That is the topic of our show today.

1:16.6

And I expect it will be the topic of a number of shows to come.

1:21.1

Quite simply, you cannot do meaningful tech policy under lawless authoritarianism. So this is the topic of the moment,

1:32.3

here as elsewhere. To start us off on this subject, I'm very fortunate to be joined by Liz

1:40.8

Dye and Andrew Torres. They're both accomplished writers and attorneys,

1:46.9

but for present purposes, the main thing you need to know

1:49.9

is that they host the Law and Chaos podcast.

1:54.3

Law and Chaos is always fantastic,

1:58.0

but these days it is also indispensable. Liz and Andrew explain everything about our

2:04.7

deep constitutional predicament with the perfect combination of intellect, indignation, humor,

2:12.4

and grace. Liz, Andrew, welcome. Thank you for having us, Corbyn.

2:19.3

Yeah, Corbyn, thanks for having us on.

2:21.5

So good to have you both on.

2:24.2

I am just drowning in the universe of topics and news and scandals that you could currently

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