Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is the squiggly careers podcast. Every week we talk about a

different topic to do with work and your career and we hope we share some ideas and some tools that

just help you navigate all of this squigglyness with that bit more confidence, clarity and control.

And all of our episodes come with lots of extra resources to help you learn.

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both of us.

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But that is all free and it's there to help you.

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So today we are talking about how to get a sponsor. And the reason we're talking about this is that we know that it is

both a role and a relationship that you can have with somebody that can really help your career.

And we talk about it a lot in the sessions we run for people on how to build career communities.

And it's often the one that I see people are, I mean, sometimes starting from scratch on.

They're like, oh, I don't, I'm not even thought about this sponsorship thing. How, how do I do that? And so that's what we're going to

cover today. We're going to cover what does it mean to have a sponsor or to get sponsorship,

which is slightly broader, and then we're going to talk about how you can make it happen.

So let's just start with what is a sponsor. So as an individual, so I guess this is a sort of capital

S sponsor, that is somebody who has got access and influence over an area you're interested in and who

is prepared to advocate for you. So with that definition, this is kind of very individual when we're

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