401. AMMA — From Girl Dad to CEO: The Michael Mogill Playbook

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Business

5.0 • 539 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

What if the keys to becoming a better CEO were hiding in the way you show up as a father? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill shift from strategy to storytelling and get personal. From showing up as mystery readers in their daughter’s classroom to rewatching KPop Demon Hunters on repeat, Michael shares how fatherhood has shaped his values, his leadership, and the legacy he wants to leave. He also talks about the video games that shaped his mindset and reveals the surprising ways he uses AI in his personal life to improve his health, habits, and decision-making. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why choosing presence over productivity can create more impact in the long run What Michael’s favorite video games say about how he thinks, leads, and solves problems How AI helps him stay sharp, build better routines, and prepare for his next triathlon A straightforward look at how Michael approaches parenting, hobbies, and personal development. ---- 01:45 – Why reading to a first-grade class was more nerve-wracking than speaking at a Summit 03:37 – The books Michael and Jessica chose, and what they taught the kids about mindset and choices 04:27 – Why being a mystery reader matters more than missing a meeting 06:03 – What Michael has learned from being a girl dad 12:22 – Michael’s top video games of all time and what they reveal about how he thinks 19:54 – Why hobbies like gaming are critical for high performers 20:15 – How Michael uses AI to improve decisions, habits, and health 24:45 – The key ingredient that makes AI actually valuable in your personal life Links & Resources: The Power to Choose Amelia Bedelia American Kingpin by Nick Bilton The Power of the Dog by Don Winslow The Road by Cormac McCarthy Video Games Chrono Trigger The Last of Us Half-Life Cyberpunk 2077 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Red Dead Redemption 2 Death Stranding 2 Expedition 33 Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Ghost of Tsushima 2 Call of Duty TV & Film Mr. Robot Children of Men The Road (film adaptation) Blade Runner AI Tools & Technology ChatGPT (OpenAI) Gemini (Google) Grok (xAI) Claude (Anthropic) ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 394. How to Grow Without Losing Culture (Or Your Sanity) with Varghese Summersett 389. AMMA — Stop Fixing $5 Problems and Start Solving $1M Ones 332. Cliff Bleszinski — What the Legal Industry Can Learn From the Gaming Industry

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0:00.0	With daughters, they're just so innocent and pure and there's so much fun that you could be singing all the songs in the K-pop demon hunters and you feel great about it and you couldn't be more excited to spend time with them.
0:18.7	I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.
0:23.4	I've built my business through practice, not theory.
0:26.2	Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue
0:30.1	over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private
0:34.7	companies in America.
0:35.9	Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth
0:39.3	within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed
0:42.8	law firm owners do the same for theirs.
0:44.9	In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal
0:48.7	industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge
0:53.0	the status quo, and define
0:54.5	what it means to be a true game changer.
0:57.1	This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script for another
1:02.4	special edition episode to get Michael's take on, what fatherhood has taught him about leadership
1:07.3	and priorities, why having competitive outlets matters for high achievers,
1:12.0	and how AI benefits you not only in your business, but also in day-to-day life.
1:17.0	Sometimes I get one answer out of ChatGBT, BT, and I'll also look at Grock for a perspective,
1:22.1	and I'll look at Gemini for a perspective, and it just gives you a lot of insight from a lot of
1:25.5	different sources.
1:27.5	That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.
1:39.8	All right, here we are.
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