40. Hungry like the Wolf: Can we ever understand filicide?

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In 1983 Diane Downs carries her three small children into a hospital in Oregon, all suffering from gunshot wounds. The mother explains that she had been the victim of an attempted carjacking, but managed to trick her attacker and escape. However, not long after, the police’s attention turns towards her as a potential suspect. What could lead a mother to harm her own children? In this episode of Bad People, presenters Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss the topic of familicide and Julia shares her own family’s close encounter. Warning: This episode includes descriptions of murder and possibly some strong language. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar Academic Consultants for The Open University: Lara Frumkin and James Munro #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

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0:00.0	Hello, Gary Lednika here with Alan Shira and Michael Richards to say the match of the day top 10 podcast is back
0:07.4	We'll be ranking our footballing top 10s and debiting. It was right. Well, it's don't be me. Not a champ. It's Gary
0:14.8	First season wonders to goalkeeping blunders. Nothing is off the table. You had a few blunders in your day. Did you Gary?
0:22.0	Yeah, match of the day top 10. Listen only on BBC sounds
0:27.4	BBC sounds music radio podcasts
0:32.1	Three two one Sophie. What's the worst thing you've ever done for love?
0:37.8	Probably changed my entire personality and disregard all of my boundaries
0:43.5	On this episode we will discuss a crime that one academic called a betrayal of the presumption of maternal love and altruism
0:52.1	upon which much of civilization rests. So
0:56.4	a bad mom a very bad mom. I feel like we're not going to be talking about, you know, an Instagram bad mom where it's just someone who's like, oh, I just I sometimes drink a glass of wine before 6 p.m.
1:07.8	Hey, I'm so bad. I'm going to have a dessert.
1:12.2	Yeah, bad mom. I'm a bad mom. I let my kid play with an iPad for like half an hour. Oh my god.
1:19.2	Is it that? Is that what we're talking about? Oh, okay. Not like that. No, instead on this episode
1:24.5	We're going to talk about a very different kind of bad mom and there'll be descriptions of violence against children and as always possibly some strong language
1:37.3	All of the clips this episode are from a short documentary by ABC News called my mother's sins. I'm Dr. Julia Shaw criminal psychologist
1:45.6	And I'm Sophie Hagen stand-up comedian and this is bad people
1:49.2	Today's story takes place in Springfield, Oregon in the United States Springfield where Homer Simpsons is from
2:02.8	Yeah, it has the same name apparently there's 34 places where people live named Springfield in the United States and this is one of the many
2:10.9	Yes, but Julia actually let me just interject for some very useless information here
2:16.0	The Simpsons actually do live in Springfield, Oregon the creator met groaning set so himself
2:21.4	So I'm sorry. Just needed to tell you that. Please continue with the horrible story. Well, I'll just be getting
2:26.6	People don't even know what they're in for yet. It's already pretty bad. I'm more the shaking in my
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