39. King of Farum: Why do we love anti-heroes?

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Comedian Sofie Hagen takes us back to her childhood where she unexpectedly received a laptop and free holiday from the municipality. The former tax minister, Peter Brixtofte, was the mayor of Sofie’s town and his “generosity” meant that the citizens loved him. But soon people started to ask: where does the money come from for all these gifts? And why are Peter Brixtofte’s restaurant receipts so enormous? And why are big companies suddenly donating huge sums to the small local football club? On this episode of Bad People, Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss whether Peter Brixtofte was a modern-day Robin Hood or a crook. Why do we love anti-heroes? This episode was recorded at the London Podcast Festival in front of a live audience. This episode contains audio from: Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR) and DK4 CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Editor: Rami Tzabar Music: Matt Chandler Academic Consultants for The Open University: Dr Lara Frumkin and Dr James Munro Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland #BadPeople_BBC Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

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0:00.0	Hello, Gary Lednika here with Alan Shira and Michael Richards to say the match of the day top 10 podcast is back
0:07.4	We'll be ranking our footballing top 10s and debiting who is right. Well, it's don't be me. Not a champ. It's Gary
0:14.8	First season wonders to goalkeeping blunders. Nothing is off the table. You had a few blunders in your day. Did you Gary?
0:22.0	Yeah, match of the day top 10. Listen only on BBC sounds
0:27.4	BBC sounds music radio podcasts
0:36.6	Hello, and welcome to bad people here at the London podcast festival
0:46.6	And I really think I'm gonna have to ask you to be back down a little bit because I'm gonna be starting this episode and
0:54.4	First, a question
0:56.4	Julia, can you think of an example of when you've done something bad for a good cause?
1:01.7	I work as an expert on the issue of false memory in legal cases that often involve really horrible crimes
1:07.7	Like I've worked on cases that involve someone shooting somebody else, accusations of abuse,
1:12.7	policemen's conduct, and I almost always get instructed by the defenseless
1:16.4	So the sides of the people who are accused of doing the terrible things. So your example is like you're inside a job
1:22.9	And you're everyday life. Everything you do. You devoted your life to
1:28.0	You just worked for the bad guys
1:30.2	Great example. The alleged bad guys. Some of whom are probably innocent
1:35.7	Although sometimes they are clearly despicable people in the sense that I've been hired in cases where someone has already been convicted of crimes
1:43.5	of terrible crimes and they're serving time in prison and the person is an accused of more similar crimes
1:48.6	And my task is to disentangle whether all the new charges against the person are credible from a memory standpoint
1:54.1	Or whether at least one of these
1:56.6	allegations or memories could be false and so this involves me reading through lots of horrific things and being like well
2:01.8	These five horrific things probably happened or are based on real memories
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