Welcome to episode four of the Cult of Pedagogy podcast. Cult of Pedagogy is a website devoted to building a community of people who are obsessed with education.

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cult of pedagogy.com this is Jennifer Gonzalez

I am your host I am also the boss of cult of pedagogy and I

would like to tell you about episode four is a special special episode and I think it's really powerful

I was reviewing a book a few months ago called The Reason I Jump and it was written by an autistic boy and it's an incredible book and I urge you to get it and look at our review

but I was talking to a friend of mine who has an autistic daughter and we're going to call her Lee for

purposes of anonymity which I'll get into in a minute. Anyway I told her about the book

asked her if she'd read it and she said she had but she just wished that people who

read it had some actionable items to take away from it.

And so I wasn't sure what she meant and we got to talking and I asked if she would be willing to sit for an interview so that we could talk more about what she wishes

her daughter's teachers knew. So I think you're going to find a lot of

interesting stuff.

She initially did not want us to run the episode because she felt that if her daughter ever heard it,

she'd be really embarrassed by it.

So we decided that if I bleeped out her daughter's name

their anonymity would be preserved and it would be okay so I am really grateful that

she's allowing us to to run the episode.

So I hope you enjoy it.

I hope you have about an hour to listen,

and here is my conversation with Lee. First I want to get terminology straight because I know that I learned somewhere not too

long ago that what is appreciated the most by people who have kids with special needs is if you put the

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