This is the Grounded Podcast episode 4 with Echo Charles Dave Burke and me Jocko Willink. You were saying Echo. How is it? You were saying something. And I said just stop, press record and then complete your point.

Okay. That's the whole purpose of this.

Yes, you're right, yeah, that was good, good reminder there.

Yeah.

Okay, so Dave Burke was talking about how he was, he wasn't, I'm gonna put in different words but you were saying like

Jiu-Jitsu was never it was separate from your identity essentially like that's not for me I'm not a martial artist you know that's not for me. I'm not a martial artist. You know that's not who I am whatever which is most of us by the way maybe not you but so not just separate from his identity I think I think what you're trying to say is you know what a Venn diagram is right?

Yeah like in Dave's world there was zero overlap between

Jiu-Jitsu and Dave Burke's life. Yes.

And then there was when all of a sudden you came to Aslan Front,

you started listening to the podcast,

and all of a, there was like a little bit of a,

there was at least contact.

You're like okay I get that there's a world over there but I'm not really.

Yeah that's not really. There's no overlap. They're touching I get it. There's a thing but it's not really my thing yeah, but I mean it's fine because I can I can be in my world and that world can exist and I'm not I'm not mad at it. Yeah, that's what I meant. Okay. Yeah, check so and in a way it is kind of and I don't mean like the rigid meaning of identity. I mean like that's

You know because a lot of people say that there be like I'm not like a fighter you know I'm not a fighter that's them

talking about their identity you know they'd like define themselves or whatever so it feels like that's kind of what you're feeling at the time.

But, and here's the other part that is true for so many people where,

I was with you by the way, I'm not a martial artist.

I mean, I've taken Judo before, but I'm not like this guy. Anyway, so a lot of other people as well think,

hey, I'm not that into it, but hey, everyone's talking about, everyone around me is talking about it.

That's what my bros are doing, you know, all at least, I don't want to be the guy in my circle's not doing it.

And a lot of people do that too totally do that like you ever

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