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The Talk Show With John Gruber

392: ‘Halos and Harps’, With Casey Liss

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.83.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2023

⏱️ 193 minutes

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Summary

Apple’s 2023 year in review, with Casey Liss.

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0:00.0

I cannot believe the work that you put into the show notes. This is clearly why you're on a T.P because now I've seen the power of the Casey list.

0:08.4

Well, truth be told, I did get to listen to a Syracuse episode, which was very very good as expected and he was not lying.

0:14.8

Generally speaking my Wednesday mornings are about trying to make sure I've read all the links that generally speaking he has added. Now of course I add stuff, Marco had stuff from time to time.

0:25.5

You can tell who's who because John has copious notes exactly as you would expect John to have.

0:31.2

I'll have enough that I can jog my piss-pore memory, and then

0:35.1

Marco will have something like Marco's stuff here, which I think is on-brand for all three of us.

0:41.5

And so, so anyway, so so yeah so John's characterization was not unfair

0:46.0

he does add the lion's share of stuff but I like I said to you via text if I didn't

0:51.0

go through ATP and during Fireball I would have forgotten every damn thing and I figured worst case we ignore it.

0:57.0

It's not going to hurt anything if we ignore it as long as something's down and I've jogged my memory than mission accomplished.

1:02.0

Well, the idea is this is the talk show,

1:04.9

year and review for Apple.

1:06.8

And you compounded, I would consider it,

1:09.5

so it's more than just like a list of stuff.

1:11.7

It's like a index to a book, the book 2023, which is excellent.

1:16.0

It blows my notes. We have competing show notes and Apple notes. We're not competing, but two sets.

1:23.0

Before we get started, I just wanted to say,

1:25.7

while we're talking about the Syracuse episode of the show,

1:28.7

I'm glad you listened, but there was a funny thing

1:31.9

that I cut from it.

1:34.3

It was sort of would have been the equivalent of an after show,

1:38.0

which was John brought up the segment

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