Well, running the gamut here, it's the third and final of the ATP

triumvirate in a row back to back to back. I don't think I've ever done this

before. No. Closest was when I had you three guys on stage

before I upgraded to Apple execex at the live show.

I admit I was getting a little nervous because you had John and Casey on and I just didn't hear from you for like a month.

So I was like, damn, am I getting snubbed here? Like what's going on? like a money

money falls through my well you know how a money falls through my fingers like water and also time yes

I'm not good with money and I'm not good with time, but you and I missed our somewhat

traditional in-person summer recording, which we've been doing for several years while me and my family have been guests at your

beach house and then you and I the fun fun loving vacationers that we are.

Always take an entire afternoon to record an episode of the show in person. But we missed that last summer and I think you haven't been on since February, but here you are. I mean this is a good one. I'm happy to take this one yeah so in the

big picture I feel like there's three big things on the agenda there's this Apple Watch patent situation with Massimo. There's this App Store external

payment link entitlement. I think I'm getting the link

EPL I remember that whole fiasco and then I don't know if you've heard

Apple has a major new product coming out.

Talk about bad PR timing for the company.

How bad is it that at the time they are launching this major new product that has been years in the making,

lots of the company contributing lots of different pieces to it.

Like it's a huge ordeal to Long Vision Pro and Vision OS and this whole platform.

And now we're talking about these dumb lawsuits and App Store BS instead.

Like that's got to irritate people.

It should irritate people there, especially the parts of it that are their fault.

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