Hey friend. Welcome to Java with Julie. Thanks for listening. This listener-supported podcast is a production of authentic intimacy, a ministry dedicated to reclaiming God's design for sexuality. Well, before we jump into today's conversation, I want to tell you that we are launching our January online book studies, and we have a brand new study this winter

that I'm really excited to tell you about.

It's going through a new book called Mama Bear Apologetics Guide to Sexuality.

Some of you parents are asking me, when are you going to write a book about talking to your kids

about sex?

Now I don't need to, because Hillary Ferrar and Amy Davidson have written an excellent

book that I highly recommend. It's available now and I got to chat with Hillary about it. So

here's a sneak peek of that conversation, which you're going to hear a little later in our job

with you lease schedule. This is not a fringe conversation.

This is perhaps the biggest conversation that parents want to have, even with young

children, of how do I frame these discussions?

How do I lay the foundation of understanding gender and sexual attraction?

And how do I do that in a way that, again, isn't

going to set my kid up for being somebody who bullies or perpetuates probably some things

that have been unhealthy in the past from the Christian church? So there's a lot to unpack here.

Where do we start? I would start with, so in chapter four, it's called demolishing arguments, not people releasing ideological captives.

And so I think if we were to look at sexuality and we were to place that as like this is the problem, I personally think it's not the problem.

I think it's the symptom that we're seeing right now.

And if it's the symptom, then what is the actual problem? Now, we talk about earlier in the book,

and I can't remember if we went over this already, this idea that our sexuality and our ability

to see God correctly are intricately intertwined. If you introduce a deviation to one, you introduce a deviation in the other, which

means if I have a deviation in my sexuality, I do start to see God differently.

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