Welcome, everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds in the future.

We have this big, really big, exciting, exciting rebranding coming up.

Because what I realized was, is're short-changing ourselves by just sounding

like we're just dissecting people and we're after 360 episodes we no longer really need to be

dissecting popular IT nerds anymore like we've kind of become and there's just there's just so

much that we're leaving out for you guys and I think one of them is our connection with really

freaking awesome people in the industry and really, really good vendors. And I don't do this

that often because IT guys hate vendors for the most part. They're not vendors. I think we should

say sales people and they have good vendors. We can't really, there's all this hype in the marketplace and we've got, we've got this thing called zero trust in our language.

So it's kind of natural to not trust anyone that shows up in our LinkedIn inbox.

And there's, I think IT people have trust

issues I don't know what do you think they have trust issues Kenon I have trust issues I don't

trust my own children so I mean how about I trust a vendor so I just wanted to highlight some

really awesome people and what they can do and I think when it comes to CSPs,

which is a very broad term communication service provider,

these are the guys that sell you your Microsoft licensing.

And then you call them a middleman and they piss you off.

And I'm just going direct to Microsoft.

And then you end up with an EA agreement.

And there's so many problems with all these things. There are not problems or better ways of doing things.

And I just wanted to bring on someone that was awesome to talk about some really awesome things that

we can do inside Microsoft and Helient. Your company happens to have some old friends that I,

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