Welcome everyone back to dissecting popular teeners today talking with James Dean, Jim Miller,

Executive President, CIO, CTO. You have a lot of roles going on, but I think what may be more useful to the

youth that may continue on into the IT world or possibly even security is your background and

maybe just tell us a little story because stories are always great. And I think the best podcasts

are like a series of stories all strung together. So how did you get, and what do you prefer me to use as you're like where you are working?

Because you have some really cool stuff.

I mean, you've got like an ammunition company, which is awesome.

Then we've got cybersecurity.

I mean, what should we go with just all of the above?

So right now I am the CIO of Migra Ammunition, an ammunition's manufacturer for waterfowl and waterfowl hunting.

So ducks, geese, that kind of thing.

That's pretty niche.

That's pretty niche, actually.

Yeah, it is.

Well, there's actually three ammunition companies that I work with.

So one is for personal defense, the other's for military ammo, and the others for hunting.

As part of the manufacturing process, we do call quality control.

So we actually have our own small range behind the factory.

We also store the bulk of the gunpowder because it's

explosive outside of the factory. We only have enough in there for the production that we need

for that shift. But we do have our own live range where we measure muzzle velocity and then

the expansion of the pattern of the shot because we have

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