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Hey, everybody, welcome to Latter Day Struggles. This is your host, Valerie, pleased and excited to have Steve and Ginger Hints here.

Again, for episode two of this four-part series where we are talking about a book that was written and edited by Steve and Ginger hits called Igniting the Holy Flame,

building communities of love from the ashes of negative religious culture.

And if you have not done so already, please, please, please jump back to our first episode where we had the privilege to learn a little bit more about Steve Stephen Ginger, their hearts, their desire to do

good, some personal experiences that have led them down the path of spiritual growth and

development and how they came about writing this book where what they choose to do in this book

is tackle a tough topic. They're tackling what it is that sometimes gets in the way of our

having the most potential good take place in our spiritual communities. And so we're going to go

ahead and just start by, I'm going to ask you some questions about, well, I'm going to have you to find

some terms. And then we're going to jump into the two main

topics of your book. Okay, so first of all, in order to better understand these two great

impediments to true fellowship, I think it'd be good to actually talk about how do you define

true fellowship? Because what unfolds is what prevents true fellowship is kind of what this whole

book is talking about. So let's go ahead and just start with that. What do you see as true

fellowship? I think it's an authentic love without an agenda. And it's it's driven by relationship.

You know, I think that pretty much defines it in a nutshell.

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